‘There was a lot of psychological bullying’. Matt and Beth Redman on Mike Pilavachi abuse

Matt and Beth Redman’s new film Let There Be Light explores the emotional abuse the couple experienced at the hands of Soul Survivor’s Mike Pilavachi. They spoke to Megan Cornwell about why they made it, and what they hope will change in the Church

Megan Cornwell (MC): After all these years of carrying this, how does it finally feel to have your voices heard?

Matt Redman (MR): We’ve put out a couple of little statements in the past, but it’s been nice to speak in more detail. Really, the hope is that we’ll help a lot of victims. Every time we’ve said anything, there’s a wave of people coming forward. Hopefully this will unlock some more freedom for people - and help the Church think about some of these safeguarding structures.

Beth Redman (BR): When you can’t stay, but you can’t say, you can look flaky, or like you’re against something, but the truth is so different. We would have loved to have stayed in Soul Survivor and been part of that wonderful ministry, shaping the lives of young people.